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Topic: Death Portrayed in Film, What do you think of current portrayals of Death on screen?
Leilah
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Posted: Feb. 23 2001,8:00 pm

I thought it would be interesting to start a topic like this as everywhere I go I hear folks talking about "Final Destination", "Dogma" etal.

Personally, I thought the best treatment of a personification of Death on film was the old "Death Takes a Holiday". The script was chock full of STILL vaid social commentary by the character even after 70 years!

What are your thoughts on this subject? Favourites? Dislikes? etc.

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Sio
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Posted: Feb. 23 2001,8:30 pm

I've never seen "Death Takes a Holiday". I'll have to rent it, if I can't find it on cable.

One that stuck a cord with me was, "What Dreams May Come". I've gotten laughed at for saying so, but... I thought both the book, and the movie dealt well with the issue, even though it wasn't necessarily personified.

I saw "Final Destination" recently...the first scene is pretty swank, and I liked how Death came in so many different forms, as well as the fact that when it does come, there's no getting around it. The complete lack of spirituality, AND any remote acceptance was a turn off though.

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Today's Morbid Fun Fact: Elyria, Ohio:
A man who frequently visited his parents' side-by-side graves was found dead, lying in between them, after an apparent heart attack.


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The Reaper came that day;
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Leilah
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Posted: Feb. 23 2001,8:45 pm

You're not going to be able to find "Death Takes a Holiday" on rental tape. As far as I know, it was NEVER released to video. I would dupe you a copy, but I only have one VCR. They usually play it on and off on PBS channels or some old movie stations. You would DEFINITELY like it! Of this, I'm certain. I'll see if I can somehow get a copy of it to you, okay?

Yeah, I like "What Dreams May Come" the book. As for the flick.....well.......NAH! The whole "feel" of the book is severely lacking in the flick, which was actually based on a real occurrance that happened where I used to live, in Islip, NY.

What did you think of the old classic "Seventh Seal", the Ingmar Bergman oldie? There's some flicks on my personal page that you might like.

I've definitely got to get you a copy of "Holiday" though!

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Sio
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Posted: Feb. 23 2001,8:58 pm

It's not on video?? Wow.. ok.
I just got digital cable, so I may come across it at some point.. I mean, there's this one channel that plays "Lady Hawke" 24hrs a day... I kid you not! So chances are good.

I *did* like the book version of "WDMC" better than the movie... but the film did have some very nice effects... something that always sends my imagination off.

I saw "Seventh Seal" years, and years ago.. had to be maybe 7 or 8, so I don't remember it very well. Hafta try to see if I can get my hands on that one also.

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Today's Morbid Fun Fact: San Bruno, California:
Thirteen small boxes of cremated remains were discovered in a San Bruno funeral home that was shut down after the owner was charged with a long list of health violations.

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O, not in cruelty, not in wrath,
The Reaper came that day;
'Twas an Angel visited the green earth,
And took the flowers away.
-- H.W. Longfellow


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RevDellamorte
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Posted: Feb. 23 2001,11:07 pm

I thought Final Destination was quite ingenious actually. As for lack of spirituality in the movie, yes... it was more like a diagram. But two things about that movie-- it took me 20 minutes to finally get the correlation between the John Denver song and the movie.... all I can say is "really bad humour". BUt I did manage to snap a photo out of Final Destination which, what I think, has a depiction of Azrael in the background. Right as she gets smacked by the bus (that was just wrong) in the background is a figure standing.... and to me it looks like a hooded/robed figure... I watched the rest of the movie looking for other visuals of Azrael in the background but did not see any.

I would have to say my favorite movie regarding Death and the like would be Cemetery Man (Dellamorte Dellamore) which I believe sports the finest depiction of Azrael in any cinema flick ever!! As soon as I find the DVD, I am planning on ripping all of the frames from it with Azrael in it... those will make some fine avatars and backgrounds... also some other scenes from the film (the girl coming back from the dead.... those lips.... oops I betta be quiet. :cool:

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dnekm ailep
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Posted: Feb. 23 2001,11:13 pm

I don't remember any John Denver song, but then I can't stand John Denver so I probably just phased it out.

The "death by bus" scene was the best the movie had to offer - short, sharp & funny ;-)

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Leilah
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Posted: Feb. 23 2001,11:21 pm

Hi Rev! Glad to see you here!

I hate to be redundant, but you TOO need to check out "Death Takes a Holiday". Even though it's as old as the hills and without all the modren FX, the depiction of Death is exquisite in its simplicity! You would appreciate the overall demeanor and commentary spoken by the character (which was actually derived from a play from the VERY early 1900's).

On a more modern note, have you ever checked out a flick called "Bullet-Proof Heart"?? Not exactly a "death flick", but something I think that you would really get into. Give it time and go with it. It's a twisty little "noir" flick that I think would be right up your alley. This one is rentable at any Blockbuster.

I enjoyed "Dellamore, Dellamorte" as well, especially a few scenes, like the ossuary and when the statue speaks to him. I have the original foreign version on tape.

Anywho...glad to see that you're joining us here.

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RevDellamorte
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Posted: Feb. 24 2001,12:19 am

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I don't remember any John Denver song, but then I can't stand John Denver so I probably just phased it out.

I cannot believe you do not recall the John Denver song.... they played it over and over again... Rocky Mountain High. You first heard it in the bathroom at the beginning.... and when the teacher dies, she even puts the record on the record player. The horrible correlation is that John Denver also died in an airplane wreck.... them playing it over and over again got on my nerves... strange that you do not recall it... perhaps you hate John Denver so much that your mind has permanently blocked him out forever!!!! hahahaha!!

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RevDellamorte
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Posted: Feb. 24 2001,12:24 am

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Hi Rev! Glad to see you here!

I hate to be redundant, but you TOO need to check out "Death Takes a Holiday". Even though it's as old as the hills and without all the modren FX, the depiction of Death is exquisite in its simplicity! You would appreciate the overall demeanor and commentary spoken by the character (which was actually derived from a play from the VERY early 1900's).

On a more modern note, have you ever checked out a flick called "Bullet-Proof Heart"?? Not exactly a "death flick", but something I think that you would really get into. Give it time and go with it. It's a twisty little "noir" flick that I think would be right up your alley. This one is rentable at any Blockbuster.

I enjoyed "Dellamore, Dellamorte" as well, especially a few scenes, like the ossuary and when the statue speaks to him. I have the original foreign version on tape.

Hi! Glad to be here! Wonderful, beautiful new board! I have not yet seen Death Takes A Holiday... I have heard of it, and I do like older movies so I will check it out for sure. I have not seen Bullet-Proof Heart either, but I will put it on my list of good things to check out.

I had the Japanese laser disc of Cemetery Man, but I sold it because I want it on DVD. I just love the way Azrael rises from the ashes..... awesome!!! I will check out those flicks that you speak of! :cool:

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dnekm ailep
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Posted: Feb. 24 2001,2:23 am

Ah! The reason I don't remember that song from the film is because I've heard it about a gazillion times in my life! (Blame my parents ;) )

Definately check out "Death Takes a Holiday" :2bounce:

I hate most movies but even that one I liked.

"Cemetary Man" was cool... I've seen both the US and the Italian version (Dellamore, Dellamorte)

Leilah swears that I've seen "Bullet-Proof Heart" but it's one of those things from when I was drinking a lot, I don't remember it.......

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