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Posted by: Lady Azraelina on Oct. 09 2008,11:34 am

Hello Everyone, I have been away for awhile, due to the grief and mourning of my mothers death, which just passed on July 25th of this past summer. Anyway i am not taking it well, and its not getting any better either.

I have been trying to call my Mothers Spirit to come to me either in a Manifestion, or through a Dream. I have been praying and calling her name, but i am not having any luck. I also tried calling my dad who used to come to me before but he has stopped quite a while now. Many so called psychic mediums claim that they can talk to the dead, and also others who claim that they can as well.

Does anyone know how i may get my Mothers or Fathers Spirit to Appear to me, either in the waking world, or in the Dream world . Because i have been trying now for almost the past 3 months with no luck. I tried praying, Meditation, burning Candels and insence, i even have an ancestral altar set up, but so far no luck, can anyone help ??

                                                       Donna rip  rip
Posted by: Leilah on Oct. 09 2008,8:07 pm

Donna, while I feel for your loss, you cannot and should not call your love ones back for your OWN needs. THEIR needs are paramount and their journey takes precedence over your grief.

I KNOW the pain is hard to bear, but your love for them is what should guide you. It is their time to evolve, to move on. Give them your best wishes and all your hopes and wish them safe journey. I hate to sound like a cliche, but "if you love someone, let them go."

Your pain is strong, but your love for them MUST be stronger. To call them back would be to impede their journey for your OWN needs. In time, the pain will pass and they WILL return to you...when you are ready to hear what they have to impart, which is obviously NOT at this point because your own pain overshadows their joy.....

Be happy for their release! Feel their peace and it may help to allay your sorrow. Words are just that.....but time will show the way. Do not perforce guilt upon those you love. They have eraned their crowning achievement. Let them go home with your kind blessing and they will always be with you.

:rose:
Posted by: lyliaun on Oct. 09 2008,8:29 pm

:rose:  Spirits come when you least expect it sometimes, and ironically it may be when you actually will need their visit/guidance more than now. Physical manifestations also can come in the guise of a person that will remind you of them too. Listen to what they have to say. Dont be too hard on yourself, that in itelf can close the third eye. My condolences. I agree with Leilah, peace will come :rose:


Posted by: Lady Azraelina on Oct. 10 2008,10:17 pm

I don't believe that i will ever have any peace within my soul. My soul right now feels tortured and tormented. Also on top of that my man moved out and left me yesterday, so now i am not only grieving the Dead, but i have a broken heart as well. ( But thats another topic ).

Its just that my father always came to me, from the first week he died, he came to say good by and let me know he was ok. My dad as also made visits though out the years. I used to be able to call him into my dreams, now i cannot do that anymore.

So the same way my Dad came to me, i expect that from my mother as well. Especially now, i really need her emotionally i am torn apart, from loss of her and lose of my man as well.
I know she is dead, but her being with me Spiritually and me seeing her and talking to her, will help me alot to get though this. But right now i feel like an orphan that was abandoned in the wilderness by her mother.

                                                  In Sorrow & Despair,
                                                          Donna
Posted by: Adar-mortis on Oct. 11 2008,12:40 am

Lady Satanica....

Perhaps it is a sign that you are growing up? Perhaps your Mother and Father have decided that the time has come for you to stand on your own?

I do not believe that they would leave you unless they were 100% sure that they knew you were capable of pulling through this test on your own.

Remember... often a Parent must choose between constantly protecting their child, or allowing the child to learn on their own... it may be that the time has come for you to spread your wings and fly on your own?

Either way, they still love you... they always will.

Amorte!

Adar
Posted by: Lady Azraelina on Oct. 11 2008,1:08 am

Actually it doesn't matter how old we are, we always need a mother or father from time to time in our lives. Like my Father told me when he was alive, I will always be his baby even if i am 50 years old. And he told me when he dies his spirit would always watch out and protect me. That was my Daddy's promise to me. I am an only child from my parents, my daddy was always protective of me.

My mother Love me also, she left me a Trust fund of 100,000 dollars, And she saved up this money when she was a senior citizen in her 60's while she was still healthy enough to do it.
She wanted to make sure i have something for my life, as she knew i had nothing. She worked hard taking care of a rich lady with parkinsions disease and she paid my mom well. my mother did all that for me, and she was always there when i needed her regardless of how old i was, i was always loved and cared for by my parents.

I just never got the chance to say good-by to my mother, as the day she died she was unconscious in the ICU Room, and i was crying over her before she died, she died 3 hours after i left. She already appeared to her Sister in a dream, my aunt told me she was looking so pretty and young and she just smiled, but did not talk. I still long to see her.

                                             Donna rip  rip  rip
Posted by: Leilah on Oct. 11 2008,9:20 am

Donna;
I think when Adar talked about "growing up", he meant on a more spiritual level. I, like you, was an only child, and when my mom died some 30 years ago, I took it hard as well. I "saw" her three days after her passing, and I never saw her again. Souls pass THROUGH our lives, but they are not ours to keep. Each must move on and evolve. EVENTUALLY this is what she will teach you....how to evolve and more forward with your life.

Where you are right now, is adrift in your grief, your OWN pain of loss. BUT, you MUST think of THEM, and what they gain. They are free of this flesh. They can evolve. They can move on. They can truly become what they were always meant to become, whether that involves reincarnation, or remaining pure energy, that, only time will tell.

I can tell you THIS, their energy will always be with you. BUT, you must learn to perceive their "messages" in a different way than what you expect. THEY have evolves, so will their communications to you. Right now, you seek the familiar, and because of this, AND your sorrow, they cannot break through to you. Your sadness holds them back from "going home".

If there can be one spark of joy in your life, let it be that you know THEY are together, and knowing that should also tell you...... how could they NOT be thinking of you?

I wish I could soothe you with the cliché that "time heals all wounds.", but it really doesn't. However, the scars make you infinitely stronger AND more wise.
Posted by: Lady Azraelina on Oct. 11 2008,9:30 pm

Today i received a phone call from my Aunt in Virginia, and she informed me that my mother has been visting her in her dreams like crazy, since she died. She said all my mother does is look at her in a very sad way, but she does not talk. So now my aunt is worried, saying that anytime she gets visits from the dead in her dreams, where they look sad usually it is a warning that someone is going to die in the family. At least that is how it has been with her. As when my mother got sick from kidney disease, My Grandfather appeared to my aunt and looked really sad also, but did not speak.

So my mother is visiting family, she just is not visiting me for some reason. But i would like her to speak if she does visit, not just stare and look sad like she does with my aunt.

                                               Amorte,
                                                Donna
Posted by: Leilah on Oct. 12 2008,8:26 pm

Don't think she's looking sad cause someones going to die.Think she's looking sad becuse she can't get through your veil of tears.

Your Aunt is obviously more open to this visit than you. I think her message is clear....
Posted by: Samaelz on Nov. 19 2008,11:49 am

I'd love to help fix your heart if you'd only let me my lady-Satanica. I bring you joy and maybe more oh yes!  :beer:

My grandparents are all dead 2. If your an atheist you'll no longer be an atheist because I know that by the powers of satanism, xtianity & necromancy helps to find out the truth that there are souls and magical powers beyond the grave aswell... X-files its all real trust me. But it is a painful - sorrowful -   journey


Posted by: Samaelz on Nov. 23 2008,12:19 pm

How 'bout talking to our dear Azrael frist my lady satanica huh?  :eyemouth:  ha ha ha mmm yes*  :rose:
Posted by: Jharma on Dec. 02 2008,2:35 pm



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Hello Everyone, I have been away for awhile, due to the grief and mourning of my mothers death, which just passed on July 25th of this past summer. Anyway i am not taking it well, and its not getting any better either.

I have been trying to call my Mothers Spirit to come to me either in a Manifestion, or through a Dream. I have been praying and calling her name, but i am not having any luck. I also tried calling my dad who used to come to me before but he has stopped quite a while now. Many so called psychic mediums claim that they can talk to the dead, and also others who claim that they can as well.

Does anyone know how i may get my Mothers or Fathers Spirit to Appear to me, either in the waking world, or in the Dream world . Because i have been trying now for almost the past 3 months with no luck. I tried praying, Meditation, burning Candels and insence, i even have an ancestral altar set up, but so far no luck, can anyone help ??

                                                       Donna rip  rip
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Donna,

I am sorry for your loss, but I am compelled to share this with you.  Forgive me if I am out of line, or if I have interpreted things incorrectly.  I have often seen a similarity with those who have lost someone as well as those who I've been called to assist in their letting go and passing on.  Those who are passing on are usually more worried about the loved ones they are leaving behind than they are about what's going to happen to them.

And those who are left behind (aside from the grief of losing a loved one) often agonize because there was something they always wanted to say and never said it.  If you are one of those people, then there IS a way you can get the message to her without her re-appearing to you.  Simply get a candle, doesn't matter what kind or color, use whatever makes you most comfortable.  

Turn off the TV, the phone, the lights.  Make sure you will not be bothered by anything until you are finished.  Sit comfortably in front of the candle, and light the candle.  Focus solely on the flame of the candle, and address your mother.  Speak out loud, tell her what you want to say.  Tell her that you love her, that you miss her, tell her you're sorry, tell her whatever you want her to know.  When you're finished, then take a few moments to breathe and come back to yourself.  Blow out the candle and go about your day.  

Know that she will get the message.  Your mother has already moved on, but her soul, her spirit will get the message.  You can do this with anyone who's alive or passed on.  The healing effects for both involved are enormous, but please don't use this to harm someone, for you're affecting yourself just as much as the person you're speaking to.  

I did this with my father, who had abused me as a child.  He'd had a heart attack and they thought he was going to die.  Fearing that I'd never get the chance to say what I wanted to say, and knowing he was too far away to reach (across the country) I used this technique.  I fell asleep in front of the candle, completely exhausting myself in my attempt to purge and ultimately forgive.   I poured out all the rage and anger until there was nothing left but love and forgiveness.  And then I forgave him and let it go.

The next morning, I was told that he had a 'miraculous' recovery.  He still had to have surgery, but it wasn't nearly as bad as the tests had shown.  I, however, felt much better.  I actually lost 20 pounds of physical weight in that day's time.  I had been carrying around so much that I should have let go of a long time ago.

So yes, this is a very simple thing to do but also very effective.  If what you ultimately want is to speak with her, then simply send her a message and know that she WILL recieve it.   Perhaps then you can begin that road to healing.  

Again, I am sorry for your loss.

Jharma


Posted by: Jharma on Dec. 02 2008,2:39 pm

Forgive me, I just read the post where she visits your Aunt.  So perhaps she is still around.  That being the case, then know that she will get the message if you send it to her, and the method above is a powerful tool to send her just such a message.

Jharma
Posted by: Sio on Dec. 19 2008,8:43 pm



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I just never got the chance to say good-by to my mother, as the day she died she was unconscious in the ICU Room, and i was crying over her before she died, she died 3 hours after i left. She already appeared to her Sister in a dream, my aunt told me she was looking so pretty and young and she just smiled, but did not talk. I still long to see her.
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Having just been through something similar, trust me when I say that even though she was unconscious, she KNEW you were there, she 'saw' you, and she FELT your thoughts. You did say goodbye simply by being there, and letting your emotions flow.

In situations of coma, induced or not, I believe - based on my own observations - that the soul leaves the body quite a while before the mechanics wind down...and sticks around for a bit afterwards. You may not see her in dreams for a while, but that doesn't mean she's NOT standing right next to you as you go about your daily tasks.

I'll site a specific example.... after my grandmother died, and I was sitting alone next to her body, I silently asked her to send me three very specific signs that would confirm that 1. She was present to hear me ask, and 2. She had happily gotten to her desination (where ever it may be - she was a devout Catholic). All three signs were sent no more than 24 hours after her death. "Coincidence" was NOT possible as they were complex requests - one of them totally defying all laws of Science. I saw her in a dream a couple days later...but my mother, and 2 sisters who were very close to her themselves, have not yet seen her. I think its different for everybody. Grief plays a part too... its good to grieve, but not SO much so that it disrupts your soul in a negative way.


Posted by: Elie87x on Mar. 15 2009,4:22 am

=( I don't care how many ppl tell me to be "strong" and get over my grandmas death or the fact I know someday my parents are going to go as well. The reality is there and devastating...

I'm not a nercomancer much but..in some ways...the Spirit realm is like the ocean, we don't understand all of it and only know so much about it's watery depths..but...every once in a while someone you love will send you a wripple and you'll know they are with you.
And your love is what you give them in return..
Just close your eyes and follow what you feel
kind of like with music..
You can't see music, but it's sound waves are always there..
kind of complicated to explain =s
Posted by: Moonlitrose on Mar. 17 2009,7:33 pm

This isn't really just for this post, but just for anyone who may bee feeling the same way and read this.

A lot of times someone's "mourning" comes from their take on death in general.  How you really view death will effect how you feel when someone close to you dies.  If you view death as a loss or fear it, nothing but pain will come from it within your mind.  If you see it as "going to a better place" with God(or what you believe) and knowing that now they will always be with you now in heart and spirit, looking down on you always... you will not feel it to be so bad and actually spurn happiness.  

Something needs not "manifest" to show they are around or communicate.  Just a feeling is all it takes.  Don't want to sound crude, but wanting to see and hear one who has passed like a "beeper" is no different than telling them to selfishly "come back to life".


Posted by: dnekm on Mar. 20 2009,10:58 pm

I never got to say goodbye to my father and thought that would be more of a bad thing than a good thing.....

But, after many years, I have found it to be more of a good thing. Because in some odd way I got to say my peace to him in my own way - through myself - and also because he has become a part of me......

I feel that those who have touched our lives, whether they be cats or people, continue to touch our lives as long as we remain open to them.....

It is our remembering of them that enables the tenous link between our consciousness and their energy to remain. Things (animals, people, etc...) that have touched us will continue to touch us - always.... For they have imparted a bit of themselves unto us....

In my particular case, my father has become a larger part of my life than I ever thought he would - simply because down the road after his passing I have opened myself up to that level of communication than I ever could while he was alive...

It happens, just do not try to force it....
Posted by: lyliaun on Mar. 24 2009,5:35 pm

yes I agree with Daniel don't try to force it. Things will come when they are needed. Make sure that you pay close attention to  your dreams and hidden messages,that can be a primary contact, don't fret if nothing comes for a while.
Posted by: [m] on Mar. 25 2009,4:48 am

< "The Unquiet Grave" >
Posted by: Morgan on Mar. 25 2009,4:08 pm

Neat poem.  Glad to have you back.  :rose:
Posted by: [m] on Mar. 26 2009,4:15 am

thank you
Posted by: Nebulae Architect on May 28 2010,3:47 pm



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Donna, while I feel for your loss, you cannot and should not call your love ones back for your OWN needs. THEIR needs are paramount and their journey takes precedence over your grief.

I KNOW the pain is hard to bear, but your love for them is what should guide you. It is their time to evolve, to move on. Give them your best wishes and all your hopes and wish them safe journey. I hate to sound like a cliche, but "if you love someone, let them go."

Your pain is strong, but your love for them MUST be stronger. To call them back would be to impede their journey for your OWN needs. In time, the pain will pass and they WILL return to you...when you are ready to hear what they have to impart, which is obviously NOT at this point because your own pain overshadows their joy.....

Be happy for their release! Feel their peace and it may help to allay your sorrow. Words are just that.....but time will show the way. Do not perforce guilt upon those you love. They have eraned their crowning achievement. Let them go home with your kind blessing and they will always be with you.

:rose:
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How TRUE nad beautifully expressed, Lelilah!  :rose:

Lady Azraelina,

I am originally from Bulgaria, moved to the UK in January 2008 and have had many oppressive moments of utter solitude since... Lat year I went through a short period when I would feel like I am LITERALLY obsessed with thoughts about numerous familiar people having left this world and I really didn't know what was happening... I have felt like that about LIVING people (mostly from my distant past) and have always explained this as a sign that I would either meet them or that I was standing on the verge of a very big change... But... DEAD people!! What the... ? Later on I got in touch with a lovely family here in London and according to them this was meant to be a message that I might be alone in the physical world but on the SPIRITUAL world the spirits of these people who I had such obtrusive thoughts of would be around me all the time in order to protect me... And, as I pondered a bit, I gradually got to believe it, as all these people (some of them very close relatives, others brand new friends) were ALL well-disposed to me while being here on Earth...

Nothing ever disappears, for real!!
Posted by: Lady Azraelina on July 25 2010,8:43 pm

Samaelz,

Your words are too kind. No i am not a Atheist i do believe in God and in Life after death. And being a Disciple of Azrael i know that there is life beyond the grave. Thanks for you kindness and your support it is greatly appreicated.

Eternally,
Lady Azraelina
Posted by: Azrael's Friend on Mar. 07 2013,2:39 pm

Dear Lady Azraelina, I am sorry for your loss.
I hope things will be alright for you.


Posted by: Azrael's Friend on Mar. 07 2013,2:46 pm

When i was 7 i lost my mom. and it took me til the age of 25....so about 4 years ago to grieve. I kept going through suicide attempts from then til the age of 16 and found an outlet and wrote poems to my mom, when i was 23 or so i wrote a song for my mom.
What i am trying to get at is find something that makes you happy, write poems to the person or just sing or draw something you knew they would enjoy, it helped me cope with the loss. If you need an ear dear, donna i am always here,
       Darkest of wishes,

              Thomas aka Azrael's Friend
Posted by: EnchantedEther on Mar. 13 2013,11:27 am



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Donna, while I feel for your loss, you cannot and should not call your love ones back for your OWN needs. THEIR needs are paramount and their journey takes precedence over your grief.

I KNOW the pain is hard to bear, but your love for them is what should guide you. It is their time to evolve, to move on. Give them your best wishes and all your hopes and wish them safe journey. I hate to sound like a cliche, but "if you love someone, let them go."

Your pain is strong, but your love for them MUST be stronger. To call them back would be to impede their journey for your OWN needs. In time, the pain will pass and they WILL return to you...when you are ready to hear what they have to impart, which is obviously NOT at this point because your own pain overshadows their joy.....

Be happy for their release! Feel their peace and it may help to allay your sorrow. Words are just that.....but time will show the way. Do not perforce guilt upon those you love. They have eraned their crowning achievement. Let them go home with your kind blessing and they will always be with you.

:rose:
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How TRUE nad beautifully expressed, Lelilah!  :rose:

Lady Azraelina,

I am originally from Bulgaria, moved to the UK in January 2008 and have had many oppressive moments of utter solitude since... Lat year I went through a short period when I would feel like I am LITERALLY obsessed with thoughts about numerous familiar people having left this world and I really didn't know what was happening... I have felt like that about LIVING people (mostly from my distant past) and have always explained this as a sign that I would either meet them or that I was standing on the verge of a very big change... But... DEAD people!! What the... ? Later on I got in touch with a lovely family here in London and according to them this was meant to be a message that I might be alone in the physical world but on the SPIRITUAL world the spirits of these people who I had such obtrusive thoughts of would be around me all the time in order to protect me... And, as I pondered a bit, I gradually got to believe it, as all these people (some of them very close relatives, others brand new friends) were ALL well-disposed to me while being here on Earth...

Nothing ever disappears, for real!!
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Absolutely! I understand what you mean about being alone on the physical plane but guided or kept company by those who have gone before. I feel that with my ancestors. I had posted in a different forum about wanting to hear from them for my own benefit and I know that is not how it works. I think when I experience the Ancestors it is more like an energy pool than their actual soul coming to worry about what is happening on the physical plane even though I feel like they guide me and my family when the going gets tough. I know that if someone ever called me back from the next step of my journey, I would not be happy. This is why I don't call the spirits to me. I wouldn't want to be called for trivial things, but to those who grieve for me I would wish them comfort and acceptance for sure.

I had to read back through the whole thread so I know what's going on. I know it's been a while and I'm new here but Lady Azraelina: Wherever you may be right now I hope you have found or are finding peace and acceptance for your lose.

@Azraels Friend: I agree with you that it helps to do something like you mentioned like write poems and songs to those whom we loved that have crossed over. It is us who are left behind that have the burden of grief and have to get through the pain of our loved ones being gone from our eyes. They may be gone from our eyes but never from our hearts.  :rose:
Posted by: darkus markus on Sep. 11 2017,11:41 am

I am of thinking that this website is a place where you can talk to the Dead.  Whether or not they can respond either here or elsewhere to your message/request is still up in the air.... but for me this place is a portal to at least a substrata of the afterlife if not more.  In my world, it beats  a spirit board 'cause I can't get any one partner up with me to use the #### thing!
Posted by: darkus markus on Sep. 20 2017,5:13 pm

I noticed in a Halloween catalogue that there are self-vibrating Ouija boards now that eliminate the need for a partner in the escapade, but I'm going to stick it out here instead.  Here is where I want to vibrate the gyrated vortex that is all around us, unseen to but a very few who are stranded in the all-alone, so very far from home, extricated from the human race by fate and circumstance each and every waking hour of their alienated, isolated lives, contending with the haunted memories that make this staying melancholy a buttress against the knowing that fills their minds with guilt and pitiless sorrow for the things that are forever lost to them.  It is here that their path to the nether regions might be cleared so that those so afflicted can find their way through the dimly lit to that which they now find themselves attuned to.  What is it that travels from the here to the there?  When a message is sent out from this place, where do the increments go?  Can an intersection with the dead be implemented by disposition of thought, locus, and website technology?  if such a thing is possible, I would think that it would be most possible here within this website for The
Azrael Project.
Posted by: darkus markus on Sep. 23 2017,3:41 pm

I'm having trouble with my truck now.  Feels like it has something to do with the fuel system, as it chokes, sputters and back fires but it could be anything.  Coolant system overheating as well.  Put a fuel system cleaner in the gas tank and 20bucks worth of 92 octane and rode around; it seems to do better but then it goes south again.  Got an additive for the cooling system and hoping that it will reduce the water temperature by 20 degrees like they say it will.  Made a shelf in a drawerless dresser in my sanctuary last night.  It is to be used as a staging area for processing stuff in the near vicinity.  If I can keep from flipping out from grief and sorrow and loss long enough to restore some sense of order to my sanctuary, then this phobic psychotic may feel some puny amount of accomplishment.  In the meantime, I have noted the words of Lady Death in regards to calling the Dead. We would be wise to not interrupt their journey and I see the sense in that.  It's not about us, it's about them.  Yet still there are those who stick around, there are those who haunt the graves, there are those who have unresolved issues with some amongst the living, there are those who seek vindication for whatever reason and will not go on until things are resolved to their satisfaction even if that takes until the end of time.  There are those who wonder why, there are those who seek answers, and there are even those who seek to reassure.  If they are on their journey then so be it, but if not ......


Posted by: darkus markus on Oct. 01 2017,1:35 pm

Whoa, this could be dangerous.... right side of face all swollen up... hives.... and what else?
Posted by: darkus markus on Nov. 10 2017,1:32 pm

Mom, Dad, if either one of you or both of you are in the In Between, could help me now that you know the real deal about me and what I am and all that I have done and not done due to this mental malady?  I love you both and always have and always will.
Posted by: darkus markus on Dec. 12 2017,4:32 pm

I think I am beginning to feel the 'all alone' that seems to be intrinsic in all our lives.  Do we hope that this constant state of being just of ourselves is ever going to end or is it our destiny to descend farther and farther into nothingness until that is all there is?  I call out to the Dead.  Tell me what you know about the ever after.  You can whisper it in my ear or scream in out for all to hear but please tell me something about that which is to come.  It was my hope and conviction that there could be some kind of contact within the realm of dreams, but if that is the case and one cannot remember one's dreams, then what alternative is there for us who remain within this perpetual darkness  of unknowing?  In ancient Rome necromancers would fill earthen pits full of blood in an effort to "break on through to the other side" but aside from their imagination it was all for naught.  I have no desire to go to such extremes and have always hoped to find a simple remedy but I am crippled mentally and am running out of life force and still have found no answer.  Houdini could find none; what hope have I ?  How do I ever call out to the Dead?
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