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Topic: Artistic depictions of the Angel of Death, Different angels?
TheHeathenDJ
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Posted: Aug. 26 2001,11:08 pm

Maybe I can explain....
Some of the images I've seen in some of the galleries online include a greenish glow.  It's why I asked, it struck me as odd....

The paintings by Carlos Schwabe, A. Hamilton, and M.A. Stokes where Azraeel is depicted as the black-winged androgynous angel, the Stokes version holds a lantern with one hand and beckons the young girl with the other.  In the Hamilton version, there seems to be a green light being protected by a veiled Azrael.  In the Schwabe illustration, Azrael seems to be lifting a fallen gravedigger, (The true friend of those who labor, captured so eloquently in this picture, as well as the famous bell-ringer scene...) but again, (apparently) holding a greenish light...

I suppose it could be the rendition of colors on this old monitor.

I can guess that the lamp holds many artistic meanings, the light for the path, the brevity of life, etc., and of course, the scythe, the hourglass, even the musical instruments in the "Dans Macabre" aren't hard to figure out.  But the ::glow:: eludes me.  I happen to prefer the images described above, BTW, Azrael as the caring and compassionate friend.  Even in the Stokes painting, the look on Azraels face, and the posture, at the foot of the bed, seems to be to allay the fears of the (obviously) upset young girl, and the "Bell-ringer" image has to be about the best there is.  

As to the fears of man and their correlation to X-ian teachings, I'm not so sure I can be 110% behind that.  Much of the world still has far less of a problem with Death than we here in the States, but the earliest X-ian settlers were PAINfully X-ian, and they held a much better view of mortality.  I think all the fear started setting in MUCH later...IMHO.......

On a slightly different note, I had a splendid time with Convergence 7!  Hoped to see more of you all there, but I think I was tired till Wednesday as it is!

Regards,

Lou

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Nightcrawler
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Posted: Aug. 27 2001,6:14 am

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Quote: from Leilah on 7:37 pm on Aug. 26, 2001
It's not that the "torch was passed on". It was simply that Mikhail fulfilled that function (along with many others) prior to Azrael being awakened into being.

Well,that's what I meant...I just didn't know how to describe it any other way.I stand corrected,so it was Mikhail and not Michael....ok.I knew it was an "M" archangel.But I shalt read it again,anyway.

AMORTE!!!

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Leilah
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Posted: Aug. 27 2001,11:46 am

It should be a bluish light, not green, and it represents the soul of the individual being "harvested".

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"Death stands above me whispering low, I know not what into my ear; Of His strange language all I know is, there is not a word of fear."

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TheHeathenDJ
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Posted: Aug. 27 2001,4:17 pm

Leilah, I can see the truth of it.  Hence the :protective: posture of the hands!  Forgive me, but I much prefer terms as "invited", "beckoned", "escorted", or even "ushered" to "harvested"....though I guess some souls ARE just plain "reaped".  How sad for them.   I'm going to try the site at a different computer to see if I'm just getting bad color.

Thank you again,
Lou

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Leilah
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Posted: Aug. 27 2001,6:03 pm

I mean "harvested" in a very loving way D.J.. It wasn't meant to be thought of as "reaping", although the farmer tenderly assails his crop...after all, it is his life.

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Columbine
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Posted: Nov. 14 2001,2:24 pm

Whoa.  I just discovered a new one:  Felicien Rops.

Feast your eyes on this one!

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Leilah
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Posted: Nov. 14 2001,6:02 pm

That's Rops, all right! I love his stuff! Actually, I was going to put that image on the Necromance section, but wavered about it as it might "offend" some people, but you know what? Screw it, it's going on the next page when it goes up shortly. Thanks for reminding me :asthanos:

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"Death stands above me whispering low, I know not what into my ear; Of His strange language all I know is, there is not a word of fear."

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Sio
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Posted: Nov. 16 2001,3:46 pm

I think it's YOUR turn to get whacked with the Sheila stick... you didn't want to offend people?? Woman, you'd better put that picture up.

Don't make me turn loose the "Thorsonicon" on you. :firedemon1: :skullgrin:

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The Reaper came that day;
'Twas an Angel visited the green earth,
And took the flowers away.
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Leilah
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Posted: Nov. 16 2001,5:34 pm

Okay, I'll take my wackings  :bash:.. ..The pic will go up. I'm hoping to have the new page up over the weekend.

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Musicman
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Posted: Feb. 14 2004,6:58 pm

As an artist, I have always been greatly moved and motivated by what we may call the 'death energy'. Ever since I was a very small child, I have felt the beautiful, intense sadness of the force of transition, no matter whether we chose to call it life or death. For me, life and death have always been a part of the same overwhelming cycle, and I feel both blessed and cursed to have been able to sense this awesome energy. When I was six years old I marvelled at this force and felt it shaping my life; when I was sixteen I twisted it into forms that made me consider suicide. And now that I am in my mid twenties I see that suicide is quite the opposite of the true life-death cycle.
   So, it is always in the places where life and death come together that I have found art - in the fading purple heather of a warm autumn evening when the moors strench out beyond human eternity; in the warmth of an ancient cemetary when the sun rises in the blazing sky; in a busy city street where the eyes of passers-by tell of their life and love and death - everything seems essentially conected in a way that no words or images can ever quite express.
  And I have found art in the places where the 'death energy' seems strongest. For it is in such places that the worries of every day life dissapear, and I am overcome by the wonderful yet awesome tendrils of change and transition. As though death comes to the consiousness and tears it down so that new ideas and thoughts can grow from the ruins, and when I rise and return home I find that a part of me has died and been freed to reform in a deeper understanding of the world.
    I do not make any claim to be a great artist, but I do feel that the energy of death and transition stands at the centre of artistic power, and I would welcome any discussion of this topic.

PS - This is the ONLY discussion board that I have ever found that seems to have sane people discussing occult topics.

            Musicman... Mike

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The birds sang in the wet trees
And as I listened to them it was a hundred years from now
And I was dead and someone else was listening to them.
But I was glad I had recorded for him
The melancholy.

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