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Topic: Artistic depictions of the Angel of Death, Different angels?
TheHeathenDJ
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Posted: Aug. 03 2001,6:48 am

One of the things that attracted me here in the firstplace was the art.  Nowhere else may we find such a treasury, on-line or off.  There do seem to be different Azraels.  Some, the scythe-wielding reaper, but many as the angel.  Some of the things I've noticed are the lantern, the hourglass, the green light, winged or flightless.  Are these differences generational, geographic, or inspired to be as similar as they are?

While my ring bears the image of the "Good-old" Grim Reaper, (bought at a biker paraphernalia shope a good many years ago....can't bear to part with it...), I much prefer the "Death welcomed/as a friend" imagery.  But I guess, by virtue of being here, many of us do....

Just a little Q&A, and some musing.
Convergence 7 cometh, and I with it.

Lou

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Samaelz
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Posted: Aug. 03 2001,2:49 pm

Oh yes very original and yet truthful and right to the heart! There are many website and pictures in books that discribe our beloved Azrael as a vicious brutal slaughteror, stealer in the night ect. And that is simply untrue! We necromancers strive to shed the light on the subject that Azrael is not what the big book says about the angel! But rather the gental and caring guiding spirit wanderer of the dark. Whom also helps those whom lost there way home.

(Edited by Samaelz at 2:52 pm on Aug. 3, 2001)

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Mofoquer
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Posted: Aug. 03 2001,2:55 pm

Your rightfull words are taken by the soul, mon friend :rose:

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Leilah
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Posted: Aug. 03 2001,8:42 pm

There are as many depictions of the Angel of Death as there are cultures. The one thing that remains the same, regardless of the change of face, is the energy that He puts forth, which is unmistakeable regardless of depiction. He comes to us in the form that HE KNOWS we are ready to accept, not to decieve us, but rather to comfort us by appearing to each individual in a "pleasing" manner. For many, the traditional Reaper image is what they find "pleasing". When you ask to see His true face, THAT is when all the veils drop and you see Him for what He truly is, and that is something that cannot be depicted on any page :scatter:

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"Death stands above me whispering low, I know not what into my ear; Of His strange language all I know is, there is not a word of fear."

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Danrei
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Posted: Aug. 08 2001,1:32 pm

Along with all the art available on the web amongst other places, i find the most intriguing images in my collection of Tarot Cards for the Death Card.

While they usually are not meant to portray the Angel of Death, Azrael so to speak....the card still portrays "death" in a sense.  So it has always been interesting to me to see how different artists view this card.  The images go anywhere from the 'typical' winged, scythed angel to a can with a mouse dangling out of it's mouth.:kitty:

So, just my lil' words on that one there...

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AGirl
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Posted: Aug. 08 2001,5:07 pm

You know, I can almost bet he looks as different for everyone as God is going to.
What I find funny is the art from different cultures and how they view death.  The latino cultures seem to view death as funny, with all their little skeleton things.  When in mexico I picked up a bride and groom cake topper in a cake shop that was made to look like a bride and groom skeleton.  The sales person said it was popular for people whose parents had both died to have a wedding cake with that kind of thing on top of it on their parent's wedding anniversary.
Then you look at the art coming out of the american gothic subculture and he's a total bad ass.  I don't know if that means we take death more seriously, or if it means we're more afraid of it.  (as a culture, not individuals, obviously :) )
Maybe I'm just tired.

Jen

(p.s. Samalez, what happened to the picture of you that was your avatar?  Did you get turned into a hamster by a vengeful sorceress? or a postman?)


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Leilah
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Posted: Aug. 08 2001,10:01 pm

Sam wanted to be a Hmaster for his birthday. Go figure??

Most cultures, EXCEPT for Western Society, have integrated death more comfortably into their culture than we have, hence the irreverence of many other cultures.

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TheHeathenDJ
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Posted: Aug. 09 2001,9:37 am

Yes, Leilah I agree.  I have noticed in some of the cemetery sites that they are ::truly:: "memorial PARKS" in other cultures.  I have always, when travelling, taken note of some of the cemeteries I have passed.   Lovely places, most of them.  As for the ::humorous:: figures from Mexico, I had noticed it too.  Their "Day of the Dead" celebrations can be quite the party, I'm told.

Is there a site (I may have missed it.  I walked past an aircraft carrier once...) where there is more research into the symbolisms we all just referred to?  Especially such things as the green light?  

Thanks, all!

Lou

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Leilah
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Posted: Aug. 09 2001,5:58 pm

personally, I have never heard anything about a "green" light. There are numerous references to a blue or purplish light, but green??? Hum...Sounds more like will-o-wisp phenomenon to me.

What areas are you particularly interested in researching? Perhaps if you're a bit more specific, I can help.

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THE DARK ANGEL
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Posted: Aug. 24 2001,11:45 pm

I believe Leilah depicts Azrael in His truest form.....warm, tender, caring, gentle.....with a tear upon his boney cheek.....afterall NO one knows and understands dear Az like Leilah does.  Her poem "Heavy Halos" sums everything up.....it's heartbreaking.. :( .... but so beautiful.  I could read it a million times.  So many view Azrael as the sickle-weilding death delivering Grim Reaper.................scooping a life right out of a living body.......as if he is the great decision maker.......people are so fearful and closed-minded......open up your heart and mind and allow Az to enter.......death will never taste sweeter.....Never.  Explaining this to people sometimes leaves you between a rock and a hard place. :(

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