(Originally posted by Mike)
Sahyinepu, many mystics have had unions with the Divine or
other spirit entities which were erotically charged. I don't think
the average Necromantic has a particularly greater "need to associate
Azrael with a sexual experience" than those mystics. But an extreme
appreciation and love of death-related things, the dead, or a personified
Death, can slide into the physical, as opposed to simply being firmly
locked in the cerebral and spiritual territories. Our minds have no
strict dividing walls to compartmentalize our responses, after all.
When you write, " I have had somewhat strong encounters with Him,
in which He has come over my being, filling my complete being, and
even overflowing it, with overwhelming pleasure. I cannot move when
this happens, and am filled with joy, it is like a surge of water-like
pleasure," that certainly sounds highly erotic! Indeed, it seems
particularly like a female orgasmic response, which is supposed to affect
the whole body more than the more genitally-focused male one, even
causing altered states of consciousness. Would it be so strange to imagine
an ecstatic spiritual bliss as you describe not also generating a
corresponding bodily response?
Of her own experiences compared to Rev. Dellamorte, Leilah has written,
"...when I "return" back to earth, as it were, it trickles down into being a
very physically sensual experience as well. Perhaps the only difference
then, is that you BEGIN in the physical and push outward, whereas, I begin
on the spiritual and it all flows downward."
Some religions condemn "graven images" of divinities, preferring that the
followers deal with them as pure spirit. Yet humans are at least partially
incarnate, and find physical closeness and intercourse with a loved one
binds them together more strongly, usually creating a greater appreciation
of that person. Is it then not conceivable that fantasized mystical sex with
a spirit being would serve to promote greater spiritual advancement?
The trick would be not to be drawn "down to earth" by one's bodily
responses. Some meditation teachers discourage focusing on
a flame, image of a saint, etc., feeling it's merely a crutch which will need
to be discarded as one progresses. Yet many find such an object
serves as an aid to keep our wandering minds from being distracted by
mundane thoughts and subjects.
Intercourse with deities is a regular thread in many ancient and some
existing religions, whether the lustful gods of the Greco-Roman
pantheon, women wishing to conceive climbing upon the phallic statuary
of a specified god, or the amorous exploits of Krishna. Some say the latter
were purely symbolic, but do quests for spiritual and amorous bliss have to be separated? We are raised in a
culture which, despite its hedonism, remains puritanical and despises the
flesh. Which creates a falsely warring duality between spirit and body, as
it does with male and female.