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Topic: Communions- Sexual Rituals of Darkness, Necroerotic practices explored
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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:43 pm

(Originally posted by Reverend dellamorte)

Alright then!  Since I got coerced into doing this (yes, twist my rubber arm), I shall start this thread.
There a very many different types of communions. Spiritual, mental, emotional, altered consciousness, etc. Although I feel all of these a great deal, it is the act of physical communion that seems most important to me, and for many reasons. Any other type alone seems to leave something to be desired. Whereas physical communion includes all of the senses, inner feelings and thoughts.

Physical communion can be sacred, intense, satisfying... and lead to many altered levels of consciousness. It excites my entire being... makes me feel alive.

I personally think that making love in the cemetery is the highest obtainable level of altered mind that I can achieve. Why is this so important to me? Because it refreshes my soul and gives me new life. The sights, the sounds, the smells of everything, the warm body, the cold earth.... it is such a spiritual awakening... the deep passion that flows within me comes alive in the cemeteries, for I feel at home, I feel safe, welcome, loved and known by Him... the best of all worlds... dare I say that I like to share with Him. I would rather have the worst love session in my life in a cemetery than the best ever in someone's stuffy bedroom. If you have not tried it, I would highly encourage it, just be in the right frame of mind for the experience...

This thread has been started to discuss various darkness within each of us... our perversions, our dark desires, our little twists and such. So if anyone cares to speak, discuss or share, please do. I do not wish to look like the only sexual being on the planet.  I know that I am not, but I am interested in knowing and hearing about others "sexual" rituals if you will. Rituals, mind you, not who you went home with last night. These should be on a sacred level of some sort.

As I said, I was "encouraged" to start this thread because I... ummm... was called a wuss!!  I was asked to do it in a tasteful manner and I will attempt to do so.... for I have only begun to speak about what I do in the darkness... in the love of death, trance, ritual, and forbidden pleasure.... please share. For the more I get egged on, the more fun I become!  


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:44 pm

(Originally posted by Leilah)

There's nothing wrong with a little romance among the bones. Personally, though, at least from my standpoint, I don't think that one HAS to separate the different kinds of "communions" unless this is a choice made by you. You say; "Any other type alone seems to leave something to be desired. Whereas physical communion includes all of the senses, inner feelings and thoughts." Am I correct in assuming that pure spiritual interaction is NOT a desired thing for you?

I've always felt that "communion" with any higher entity, whether it be Azrael or another encompasses ALL levels of communion at once. If you are making love in a cemetery, are you making love to the woman? To Azrael? And, if BOTH, then ALL levels of communications should kick in at once.

Spiritual communion is the highest form of interaction because you become free of the physical limitations of your own flesh, especially when you are communing with a "higher" entity, that force often "pulls you" out of your body in order for you to experience sensations that the flesh could not EVER imagine feeling.

Yes, everyone here knows that I still enjoy my tomb visits and I'm not shy about sharing those interactions. But, to me, they are simply catalysts to HIM, springboards, if you will, and only needed by ME, not by Him, if you understand. When I am with Azrael, I am so far removed from this flesh that being contained in it becomes inconceivable, yet when I "return" back to earth, as it were, it trickles down into being a very physically sensual experience as well. Perhaps the only difference then, is that you BEGIN in the physical and push outward, whereas, I begin on the spiritual and it all flows downward.

In any event, what does everyone ELSE here have to say about this most interesting thread. Figured I'd give everyone ELSE here first dibs on this before I go into my usual "fetish" tirade! hehehehe

Thanks for posting, Rev!


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:44 pm

(Originally posted by Sio)

Well... the only real sexual organ our bodies possess is the brain, which is infused with our spirits. One can experience a full physical climax without the flesh ever being touched, if the brain is stimulated...
Personally, I prefer this form of communion at least every so often with another human, being that I believe if it can be attained, it will make the spiritual relationship all the stronger, as death only leaves the body behind. I also think it's quite amazing to experience something so..."otherworldly" intense. It really is NOTHING like the usual physical sensation. Not saying that flesh on flesh isn't good, or a spiritual experience...it is, but only to an extent. Being 'out of body' is a refreshing change. (and no need for towels )
I can't much comment on cemetery sexual rendezvous, since I have yet to have one, so, I don't know how profound they may be, on a flesh level. I HAVE had the intense communion with entities IN the cemetery basically the same way I would another person. I don't think that can even possibly be described in words....only emotions.


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:45 pm

(Originally posted by Lenore Stone)

I have tried the graveyard sex thing as well, and I must say that although sex can be fun and healthy in any surrounding, I felt a bit "cheated" (or was it that I was cheating myself) out for the whole Necromantic communion experience. Flesh offers no contest to what can be achieved through the spirit. But, I guess all in all, it turned out to be a lesson for the better...the lesson being that I don't need anyone around/with me to experience the magnificence of His touch.
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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:45 pm

(Originally posted by Rev. Dellamorte)

I must admit, that physical touch is very important to me. Yes, I can achieve a great many thing with my mind, and spiritually alone, but I usually desire more. I am simply one of the flesh, as well as one of the mind. So to "feel" something spiritually all by it self, leaves me with something to be desired.
In a physical communion, all senses, body parts, and spiritual planes are used. I was attempting to explain that physical pleasure goes way beyond just "physical" for me. When I feel something with my body, I also feel it with my soul, my heart, my mind and all else. I am very sensual, and rather enjoy every type of feeling that I can obtain.

Yes, I would readily agree that I do not "need" another body to share my feelings with Him. But like I said, I feel everything on so many different levels, that I like to have someone else there sharing the experience with me. Doing anything taboo, wrong, immoral, iconoclastic, illegal or otherwise is what makes me feel good, and lifts my spirits. This of course referring to what common mankind thinks, not what I think. I do not think anything is wrong, absolutely nothing.

When physically aroused, I am also very mentally and spiritually stimulated. This is why I refer to things as "communions", a type of sharing in every way that I possibly can. If everyone agreed on the same thing, we would have no need for discussion boards or intellectual conversation of any sort.


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:46 pm


(Originally posted by Leilah)

Okay, so please explain this statement in more detail "Doing anything taboo, wrong, immoral, iconoclastic, illegal or otherwise is what makes me feel good, and lifts my spirits."

When you say "anything", can you be more specific as to some of the MORE nitty-gritty "taboo" things you'd prefer. I mean, making whoopie in the graveyard isn't "taboo" nor "illegal", so....what ILLEGALITIES and IMMORALITIES do you prefer, and where do you draw the line. I mean, are capital offenses even an option here?


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:47 pm

(Originally posted by Elegia)

....hum...and what about the necrophilia issue? Any interests in that area on this here topic? I've been absent for a while. This looks more tasty!


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:47 pm

(Originally posted by Morgan)

My magical partner and I have done rituals which involved spiritually journeying into the grave of a willing participant and having an entwining with the bones that lay there and it being an extremely sexual experience. Not a physical experience with the bones but a powerful one nonetheless and a pathway to Azrael's presence and an important part of our necromantic training.
At times I wondered if it was "cheating" since a physical catalyst was not involved, but as I worked in this way I realized that it was just as "legit" as a physical experience for many of the reasons that Leilah so eloquently put down in her initial response to this thread.

Thanks to Rev. Dellamorte for starting this thread!


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:48 pm

(Originally posted by SparkofSoul)

Interesting thread...for me, physical sexual activity in no way compares to the spiritual bliss I've experienced. I can connect with a person or higher entity in a way that is almost inexplicable..I mean..just through the intensity of a thought...or a prolonged gaze..or the immersion of myself into the rythyms of anothers breathing and energies can fly me off into oblivion..one that not only makes me mentally giddy and completely happy, but also puts me into a physical state that feels like a total body orgasm...physical touch during those times, depending on the situation, can just ground it...I mean, to me, the ultimate is just to osmose with someone of a like mind and feel them from the inside out without any intentional actual lovemaking as we otherwise know it...Ordinarily, climaxing through "regular" lovemaking can serve as a gateway..But.. There is still no comparison. Personally, I can get disillusioned with ordinary sexual activity no matter what the fetish..Fetish activity certainly makes it more interesting, but the true joy of a sexual experience for me is in the giving to another ....whether passive or dominant in the situation... Recently, a physically intimate encounter occurred while I was in a highly charged state of spiritual bliss...It was quite different because I HAD to approach the situation tantrically and had no personal release.I have experienced varied states of concsiousness since...Quite a unique situation indeed..It incorporated so many different aspects..The physical experience can be absolutely beautiful so long as the physical is exceeded and the abstract planes are sought and attained...Taking the totality of another persons being into a spiritual communion is a very serious matter to me. I learned this the hard way. Being a whoredog got me no where..My mind wasn't REALLY blown until I completely surrendered and aligned myself with higher energies and appropriate actions..Without higher intent and spiritually meaningful interaction, physical communion was/is only a stress reliever... or a sport.


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Posted: Mar. 03 2001,7:48 pm

(Originally posted by Sahyinepu)

I must say I am somewhat perplexed by this thread.....why is there such a need to associate Azrael with a sexual experience? Do the people involved in these sexual encounters believe Azrael is comming into them as they are engaged in sexual activity? If not, then why the engagement? In my experience with Yinepu, we simply talk, or He comes to me in dreams. I also do a shrine rite, which involves basically meditaion, and I do that in my home. I have had somewhat strong encounters with Him, in which He has come over my being, filling my complete being, and even overflowing it, with overwhealming pleasure. I cannot moove when this happens, and am filled with joy, it is like a surge of water-like pleasure. But I have never had any desire to commune with Him through sex. Just curious.


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