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Topic: Healing Thread, The Holistic Way
Morgan
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Posted: Nov. 03 2004,10:43 am

Go Daoine!!!!!!!!!
Depression?  St. John's Wort.  Stay outta the sun.

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AngelicaRHill
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Posted: Nov. 03 2004,11:07 am

I have taken St. John's Wort before , and I found it has alot less side-effects than the prescription anti-depressents. In fact I can't even remember any side-effects that St. John's Wort had had.

I have Adenomyosis and my Doctor had prescribed Zoloft along w/ Ketaprofen. He had said that it would help with the pain. IMO he had thought that maybe the Zoloft would help me forget about the pain? When I asked him why the Zoloft he replied "The two together has had a very high success rate for me, but there is no medical explanation yet on the reason why it works." At any rate, I decided to replace the Zoloft with the St. John's Wort because I just really really really hated the side-effects of the Zoloft.

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Morgan
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Posted: Nov. 03 2004,12:28 pm

http://www.adeno101.com/  Check that out for your endometrial problem.


St. John's Wort allegedly makes you more sensitive to the sun.  I never took it.  My signifigant other used to take it for other problems associated with physical healing, but I can't remember what.  His lungs were badly messed up from solder and chemicals, but that's almost 100% healed.  It might have been for that.  For depression, I ESCAPE in my art and meditation or sleep.  I don't do anything chemical for it, but I'm not that bad off.

Edited by Morgan on Nov. 03 2004,12:39 pm

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Saintantress
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Posted: Nov. 03 2004,5:33 pm

Juniper berry tea is good for migraines.
Cranberry tea is good for the bladder and for water retention.
Lemon Juice is also great for water retention, about a shot glass amount in hot water(about a coffee mug full) before bedtime will make you 3-5 pounds lighter in the morning.
Valerian is excellent for sleep problems/insomnia. (there is an over the counter supplement I think its called "Aluna" and it is potent! And very stinky!
:laugh: Just warning everyone. It seems to help calm nerves, too.
Chamomile of course has a calming nature, but very subtle.
Damiana is an aphrodisiac and a stimulant. It definately seems to be more of the latter, for me anyway. I have friends that say it is more an aphrodisiac, though.
For throat infections, Make a Gargle/rinse with 2 quarts spring water, 2 teaspoons of baking soda, 2 tablespoons  sea salt or kosher salt (must be either. Regular table salt has too many chemical additives). It has an antibiotic/antiseptic quality, and can actually kill off infections. A nurse gave me this recipe. You can use it as a nasal rinse as well. It really works. Use it several times a day. The solution should be dumped after 3-5 days, though. Works great for sinus problems, nasal infections, sore throats, head colds, etc.
I was sick as hell before Yule last year and I thought I would have to go into the hospital. The nurse gave me a two week supply of antibiotics (to be taken 2x daily) and this "natural remedy". The next morning I was able to swallow, and by the evening I felt normal. I continued the antibiotics, but I still believe that this mixture gave me immediate relief. (In her words, the mixture is in itself an antibiotic.)

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daoine o
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Posted: Nov. 04 2004,2:34 am

True, St John's Wort has been proven to be just as effective as SSRI's like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, et al, for *mild to moderate* depression, but is ineffective against *severe* depression.  And yes, it does increase photosensitivity.  So it won't be effective against 'crippling depression'...my 'pat' suggestion is to first do a lot of personal searching and looking for answers as to what may be the underlying cause of your depression.  Is it something 'inside you', or outside forces that are effecting your mood?  Only then look to 'professionals' for an answer...I'm not a fan of chemically-induced 'happiness', especially since none of them worked for me.  Made me psychotic, narcoleptic, fat, no sex drive, etcetcetc, yeah, you name it, but none ever cured my depression.

I'm chronically depressed, but a lot of it is my own making...i.e. 'damn, why aren't i filthy rich yet?  why do i have to work for a living?  there aren't enough hours in the day!  my weekends/days off are too short!  my life sucks!'

Not to belittle true clinical depression, but in some cases, it's one's circumstances that cause 'depression'.  If everything's going great for you, and you're still inexplicably 'down', then maybe there's a clinical problem, and a clinical answer to be had.  But look inside first, I say.

Just my usual opinionated $.02....  :smoke:

:asthanos:  <---  if i had an ass, would i be talking outta it?

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Saintantress
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Posted: Nov. 04 2004,8:59 am

St. Johns wort also interferes with the effectiveness of oral birth control. I once had a big scare because of that. Alot of people don't realize that holistic or herbal remedies can counteract prescription drugs, in the same way other prescription drugs can. Many people also don't realize that herbs can have side effects as well. Just because it is natural does not mean it's always safe. Basically, almost every prescription drug is a synethic form of something found in nature.
Unless the person using or prescribing the herbal treatment is an experienced herbalist, using herbs could sometimes actually be as dangerous as prescription drugs. Sadly, in our society its probably safer to use the prescription version, as very few doctors and pharmacists know the side effects of anything herbal, but almost everything about prescription meds.
So its up to the person using the herbs to know the right dosage, interactions, side effects etc..

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Morgan
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Posted: Nov. 04 2004,9:27 am

There's a lot of books out there.  'Culpepper's Herbal', John Lust's 'Herb Book', M. Grieve's 'A Modern Herbal', and it helps to have a friend who's a witch.  I've read a lot of alternative news about the pharmaceuticals, and I'm NOT a fan of theirs.  Money grubbing bastards who do as little as they can to cure the problem, but do their best to just control the problem, so you keep on paying, while they destroy you.  Thanks, but no thanks to perscription drugs.  I'm expecting input from Daoine,
and me thinks she'll support this post, having had experience in the field.

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AngelicaRHill
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Posted: Nov. 04 2004,10:03 am

Good morning all,

I agree with you both, actually.  There are some situations where prescription drugs are life saving and some situations where they are just wrong.  For eg. treatments for Krohn's disease. I donot know of a natural remedy for that. So, I guess with all things in life there are good sides to it and bad sides.

I just know from personal experience that anti-depressents had very awful effects on me. They did more damage than good in helping the situation I mentioned earlier in a post. I lost alot of weight (which was a plus lol), couldn't sleep at night, stayed in a zombified state all the time, had no memory of anything that happened around me. I just did as Daoine had described and worked my way through it. I tossed away the drugs and worked on myself.

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mid dark thoughts of grey tombstones
Not one, of all the crowd to pry
Into thine hour of secrecy."

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Saintantress
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Posted: Nov. 04 2004,10:38 am

I am not trying to debate here. I'm just saying that you need to know what youre dealing with before you use anything. Whether you have a friend who is a doctor or one who is a witch, anything has risks, prescription or holistic. People just think "got a problem, take something!" and people who turn to herbs are no less guilty of this mindset.
Who is a person going to turn to if they screw up with herbs? Most of the medical industry( especially within the US) has no knowledge of herbs, and if someone ends up in an emergency room because they misjudged proper dosage, had side effects etc.. well, good luck to them! :doh: On the other hand, "thanks" to extensive medical research done on animals and human guinea pigs (please note my cynicism) prescription meds have the most predictable outcome, and even in the worst possible scenerio most medical workers would know the symptoms and what to do to counteract the drug and save your life.

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Leilah
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Posted: Nov. 04 2004,8:23 pm

Well, I'm using a combination of alternative treatments and traditional meds for my rheumatoid arthritis.

The alternative things I take are;

1000 mgs of Vitamin C
Omega 3 Fish Oils
MSM (makes your hair grow as well! Great stuff!!)
Glucosamine
Cetyl Myristoleate (newfangled and controversial)

The standard meds I take;

150 mgs of Voltaren XR
2.5 mgs of Prednisone (UGH! I HATE steroids, but without them, I am utterly useless)

Oh, and I wear copper bracelets also. Oddly enough, even if it's just a mental thing, they make things a tad more bearable, only wish I could strap them to my knees.

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