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Topic: Childfree Forum, for those who opt NOT to spawn...
Leilah
Lady Death


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Posted: April 01 2005,10:24 pm

I know we've been kicking this forum idea around for a while now. But, I think it's time for those among us to have our say on this issue.

Not all humans are cut out for procreation and parenthood. Some of us actually have other things to "nurture" in our lives other than babies.

The way I see it. "Go forth and multiply" might have meant something when the earth was vastly unpopulated, but nowadays, when the Earth is vastly overpopulated, it's high time to think about the survival of Mother Earth over Mommy Dearest.

Personally. my PERSONAL OPINION (READ THAT- ALL CAPS) is that anyone these days who WANTS to have a child should opt for adoption as there are way too many kids with no homes and  no hope for homes in our life time, but people are generally selfish in that they feel that only flesh of their flesh will be a true reflection of themselves to carry out the family name, etc..etc..

But, for those of us who chose to be child free (yes, Daoine, I'm "borrowing" from you), then this forum is for you.

It is after all, once again, the RANT forum, so feel free to get yer ya ya's out here on this subject.

I feel "rantee" as of late...must be menopause kicking in
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Morgan
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Posted: April 02 2005,12:52 am

I personally just consider them a waste of time, resources, and peace of mind.  I like being able to sleep in when I don't have to do overtime, and having enough money to deal with being under-employed for a year, and not having to worry about some reckless dip-shit's expenses incurred from being a reckless dip-shit.

I mean, how much money did it cost my parents to pay for my medical bills after having almost gotten myself killed by a train; and I still think it serves the bastards right, for having interfered with my sovereignty.  (Father/stepmother)  

Oh yeah!  I'm such a little ingrate.  We've also read some of my posts and 'art' directed at my much loathed and destested cumdumpster incubator.  (Aren't I every parents' dreamchild?  I ended up being a  completely pointless parasite, for I will do absolutely NOTHING for any of my relatives.)

I've done a lot of really stupid things to make my life harder.  People have a tendency to do that.  On the other hand, I never took on more than I can handle.  I've never dropped below ground zero.  My piece: Revolution's Fire (The Coversation-Necromantic Verses) describes it.  No kids, no credit cards, no keeping up with the Jones', and no superfluous expenditures.  Being very low maintenence and having a high degree of curiosity on the job (I'm gonna get back to where I was salary wise, from learning all I can on the new job.), helps too.  I mean, I even cut my own hair.

Also, I am a member of The Church of Euthanasia.  Animals and Environment first.  Every person alive does more damage than good.  I try to do less than most, not to mention I am philosophically opposed to the concept of Physical existence.  The predatory cycle of it, and all.  

Why give the government another piece of cannon fodder, the corporations more cheap labour, the freeways another commuter, the enviroment another polluter, and me another headache?  I'm really surprised more people haven't come to this set of conclusions.

As a closing sentence, I also hate life, and isn't it hypocritical for one of that bent to breed?

Edited by Morgan on April 02 2005,1:01 am

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daoine o
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Posted: April 02 2005,12:55 am

Leilah!  You did it! :clap2:

 A 'Childfree Necromantic' thread!  (I'd like to take credit for the fabulous term 'childfree', but alas, it's not mine.)

Uh-oh, the flood-gates have been opened...do you have any idea what you've unleashed?  

Well, everyone who has been on this board for awhile knows that you and I are totally on a par with this topic, so there's really no need for me to 'preach to the choir' here, but you *know* this thread could turn pretty ugly!  But I gotcher back!

As I'm sure everyone also knows, I'm spayed and very happy that way; never in my whole life did I ever entertain thoughts of being a breeder, never once pregnant, or even a scare; I've been that careful. (Not that I would have had the least compunction about getting a little parasite sucked outta me faster than you can say 'Roe vs. Wade'.)  No-one's gonna change my mind (or convince me that their offspring are any different than anyone else's; or better, or smarter, cuter, quieter, more creative, 'no, really, you'd like mine!')  Whatever.  If it's under, say, 18, I really don't want anything to do with it.  I'm not even particularly fond of my own nephew.  

Not like/want brats?  Unbelievable!  Incomprehensible that someone really hates children, unequivocally?  Will do *anything* to avoid being around them?  You betcha.  

Call me selfish, self-centered, self-absorbed, narcissistic, whatever.  People call those insults?  I call them virtues.

I know this is going to cause problems with those on the board who aren't childfree, that this is a forum for the childfree to vent and rant, but I hope they'll realize that while they're welcome to come and read what we say (and not like it at all), that this forum isn't about/*for* them...but I don't want to turn this into an 'us vs. them' kinda thing, but considering what's happened to the other 'childfree' boards on the 'net, I fear the worst.

:asthanos:  <---  here we go!

(just to be fair, shouldn't there also be a 'necromantic parenting' thread?  then we can all have our own!)  :skullgrin:

Edited by daoine o on April 02 2005,1:17 am

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Morgan
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Posted: April 02 2005,1:27 am

Hey, Daoine!  Don't forget about me, huh?  I mean, remember what I got suspended from the forum for, for a day?

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Edited by Morgan on April 02 2005,1:29 am

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dnekm
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Posted: April 02 2005,1:56 am

Morgan - yeah, well... from what I heard it was enough to make you spew in your cornflakes.....

Let's keep this topic clear of that...  :eyemouth:

Back in a bit....

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Morgan
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Posted: April 02 2005,2:05 am

No more pictures!  I promise!

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dnekm
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Posted: April 02 2005,2:53 am

Okay - I go.... I come back...  :hippy:

That's cool, Morgan...  :eyemouth:

Honestly? What literally scared the hell out of me soon after I met Leilah and started working on getting "The Book Of Night" in print was the woman I was living with at the time - through either jealousy or perverseness - told me she was pregnant.

Now.... I have never wanted kids, but was generally stupid a lot when I was younger. She had told me it was physically impossible for her to get pregnant. And I believed her - she expalined the medical details quite graphically....

And it was not true - but when she told me that I saw my entire life flushed down the toilet - all of my hopes for the future, everything I felt I had to do - gone. For I was raised that if it were true, I would have given everything to take care of her and the kid.

I can still remember that feeling quite vividly - my whole life, gone....

For I would be responsible for another...

And I made the choice right then - never.....

To some it may seem selfish, but I also had the opportunity to witness someone I went to school with - his life ended when he got someone pregnant just out of high school. By the time I left NY he had three kids and was working something like 12 hours a day just to continue.

He was not happy.

In an overpopulated world, things like this are not necessary.

daoine o - yeah, it is finally here...  :smoke:

I would like to think that our forum can handle it. It is in the "Rant & Rave" forum after all....

We will see how all of this progresses....

I would post more but it is late...

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Jasmine
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Posted: April 02 2005,7:57 am

I think the decision to have children is a very personal one, and much props to anyone who sticks to whatever choice they make.  I have people in my own family that wont have children...some by choice, others not so.  One in particular can't have kids....and I see what she goes through.  That, I think, is why I have much respect for anyone who chooses that desicion on their own.  She has said a thousand times she wished *she* could have picked...not her body.

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Leilah
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Posted: April 02 2005,10:46 am

Hey Daoine! Like Dan said, I think our people here can handle this topic without it becoming the fiasco you've seen on other boards.

And, for those among us who ARE parents, please feel free to start a "Necromantic Parenting" topic if you so desire over in the "All Things Necromantic" forum.

This forum is in NO WAY an attack on those who choose to be parents. Rather, it is for those of us who choose the alternate path :angelic:

Daoine, if you want to post some links to those Childfree places you visit, feel free  :beer:

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Musicman
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Posted: April 02 2005,3:49 pm

Ooooops, misquote

Edited by Musicman on Aug. 26 2005,5:00 pm

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The birds sang in the wet trees
And as I listened to them it was a hundred years from now
And I was dead and someone else was listening to them.
But I was glad I had recorded for him
The melancholy.

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