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Topic: what the fuck???
dnekm
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Posted: Nov. 19 2004,2:48 am

Sometimes, I do not really believe that I live in the same country as some of these people....  :banghead:

Read this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin....intable

Here it is, 2004, soon to be 2005.... yet I feel like I am living in the - dark ages????

Apparently, there are some (congressmen) x-tian crusaders out there who feel that porn is just as bad as heroin?

I just love this quote:

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Brownback, a father of five, said when he was a boy, the typical kid's exposure was limited to occasional peeks at dirty magazines illicitly obtained by a buddy.

Now, he said, pornography seems pervasive. Children run across it while researching homework on the Internet. Vulgar ads arrive unexpectedly by e-mail. Some of his middle-age male friends limit their time alone in hotel rooms to avoid the temptation of graphic pay-per-view movies, Brownback said.


So, the temptation of their imaginations upon their genitals is just too much to resist? If left alone in a hotel room they will immediately, obviously due to the influence of Satan or some other bullshit excuse, grab the remote and order pay-per-view porn? Is this not a completely voluntary exercise?

How have we come to this, as a country? How has the ultra right - who obviously are not responsible for their own actions as everything is a "temptation", and not at all a reflection upon themselves and their own (supressed) desires run rampant - now in such control that they must now seek to eradicate all expression of anything which does not meet their wholly imaginary guidelines as to how a good x-tian is supposed to be living their lives (altar boys notwithstanding)?

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Layden called for billboards and bus ads warning people to avoid pornography, strip clubs and prostitutes.


This is good  :laugh:  Except the billboards and bus ads would have to show some skin to get people's attention....

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Brownback, an outspoken Christian conservative who has championed efforts to curb indecency on television and the Internet, said the public is beginning to realize "they don't just have to take it."

But he acknowledged the First Amendment right to free speech has limited congressional efforts.


This is even better - Damn the first Amendment! It was obviously not meant for people who like to speak their minds, and like to live their lives the way they choose to. It was only meant for those who would legislate their morality onto others, who know what is best for everyone, even if thier own lives are so fucked up due to repressed desires they cannot even watch a football game without getting unduly aroused at a naked back or an errant nipple.

These are people who refuse to acknowledge that they are naked underneath their clothes. Who would rather cover up the boobs of Justice with sackcloth than speak before a statue which used to be considered a work of art.

These are people who are afraid, of many things. But one of the most fearful things to them is a naked woman.

There is a simple answer to all of this. If you do not like what you see - change the channel, or just do not look overlong, or do not pay for pay-per-view. It is a choice.

We all choose what we watch, listen to or order. Just do not do it. If your faith requires that you be strong in the face of temptation then be strong. Do not try to legislate your faults away at others expense.

If you do not believe in abortion, do not have any. But do not attempt to press your "moral values" onto those who do not share them.

in short - we are a rebellious country. America was founded upon that very act. How soon we forget!

We obviously cannot outdo the right in getting or buying votes. So I suggest we do something much easier....

Restore the balance that is built into the system. Vote for the people in the House and the Senate. Push out the Republican majorities and make it so the prez-i-dent actually has to work with the other half of the country.

It is the only way, at this point.

Do not let a margin of a few percentage points become a mandate. It is not. But already the ultra-right is crawling out of the woodwork....

We are a nation of individuals, not an x-tian nation. All of us have opposing views about a great many things. But we are rapidly surpassing the zero-point where those views even get to be heard.

If you think about it, very seriously, the real "terrorists" live very close to home. They would strip away everything in a gloss of morals and righteousness to secure the right for you, to be just like them.

Scary....  :cussing:

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Morgan
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Posted: Nov. 19 2004,2:11 pm

Oooooooh, yeah!  This thread came by just in time!  This just hit me.  The economy is dying and stocks are going nutso.  Wouldn't it be interesting if stocks went through the ceiling until early next year, and then they totally crashed, and everybody got stuck paying for on paper profits that don't exist anymore?  How to completely destroy a lot of (lazy) people (who want something for nothing) who can't see the forest for the trees.  It might happen.  If it does, you guys will never hear the end of it re: I told ya so!!!!!  (Yes, I'm kidding.)

Oh, yeah!  They also passed laws to make it harder to file for bankruptcy.  Let the government looting begin, huh?  Especially since the Federal Income Tax amendment wasn't even ratified.  The again, we mustn't forget what they do to tax protesters.  The Gordon Kahl story is pretty horrifying.  Here's a link:

 http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a393239870efb.htm

Isn't our government nice????  NOT!!!!!!!!!

And while I'm at it, here's a draft resistence link:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/wiggins5.html

Edited by Morgan on Nov. 20 2004,4:07 am

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Leilah
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Posted: Dec. 09 2004,9:47 pm

Just another example of how humans are regressing. Check this out Those Pesky Satanists.....

You'd think at the approach of 2005 humans would be evolving rather than DEvolving...  :shake:

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daoine o
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Posted: Dec. 10 2004,1:06 am

If I laugh any harder, I'm going to have a seizure!  :laugh:

Yep, ya know that line...'The Devil's best trick all these years has been to make people think he doesn't exist'...  :worm:

Oh, yes, I know he exists, but not in the way these nincompoops think.  :bash:

:asthanos:  <--- hmmm...'the devil is in the details'?  that sounds about right...

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russalka
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Posted: Dec. 12 2004,10:54 am

I especially love the Vatican article, written by old men, in dresses, who posses the world's largest collection of erotica!!  :laugh:

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even where Persephone goes, just now, from the frosted September
to the sightless realm where darkness was awake upon the dark

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Leilah
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Posted: Dec. 24 2004,8:43 pm

The holidaze have always been a double edged sword for my family. This week we were greeting to my dad's van being broken into and the ignition all broken up. And, just a few hours ago, our fridge motor burned up and took out the wires in the kitchen walls as well. I'll be on guard til the New Year sets in.  :shake:

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unchained spirit
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Posted: Dec. 25 2004,4:15 pm

I find this article to be poorly written and unfocused.
For instance:

ROME (Reuters) - Forget the new "Exorcist" film, the Vatican is offering the real thing.

A Vatican university said on Thursday it will hold a special "theoretical and practical" course for Roman Catholic priests on Satanism and exorcism in response to what the Church says is a worrying interest in the occult, particularly among the young.


The Catholic Church is very guarded and not visible on this exorcism thing.  At least they haven't been in the past.  Proposed exorcisms are only okay if they go through a lengthy process of analysis on a case by case basis.  Why loosen the buckle now?  An interest in the occult is not the same as possession, and I think, rarely actually opens the door to it.  The occult is much larger than something called "satan."  To equate one word with another so quickly demonstrates a flat intellect.
Also note:

The Regina Apostolorum, one of Rome's most prestigious pontifical universities, said in a statement that such episodes should be seen as an "alarm bell to take seriously a problem which is still far too underestimated."

Regina Apostolorum.  If I translate right, that means Queen of the Apostles.  Whether or not it has any prestige is not for the author to tell us-- he is supposed to be acting as a journalist here.  The statement should be attributed to a person speaking for the institution, not to the institution itself.  This is sloppy and indicates an unwillingness of either the institution or the journalist to take responsibility for this part of the story by attributing in detail.  Not good, not good at all.

"For young people, interest in Satanism can start with a CD, move onto the Internet. From there, it sometimes develops into home-grown, seemingly harmless things like going to cemeteries but sometimes can lead to murders, as we have seen."

Sir your logic is flawed.  This is called the slippery slope.  
Please note and remember that one flaw in logic can veil to the auditor thousands of lies at once.
I approve highly of cemetery visits by people of all ages.  I believe that cemeteries should be open at every hour.  If young people felt in touch with their ancestors or connected to those gone before, they'd respect themselves and their lives immensely.

The formula begins: "I order you, Satan..." It goes on to denounce Satan as "prince of the world" and "enemy of human salvation." It ends: "Go back, Satan."

Go back?  Go back where?  Satan is supposedly the prince of the world, he has nowhere to go.  The chief enemy of human salvation is the lack of a sense of connectedness with nature, the universe and time.

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Morgan
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Posted: Dec. 26 2004,8:27 am

New topic.  This link contains somewhat kinda sorta vaguely disgusting pictures of depleted uranium victims; mostly those born after the fact.  A little on the graphic side:
http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacr....phe.htm

Now can I ask a stupid question?  Those that are alive, are probably in quite a bit of pain, and not expected to last 3 months, so why are they being kept alive?  I mean, wouldn't any Westgater be royally pissed at the idea of being kept alive in this state of existence?  I know I would be.  WHY ARE PEOPLE SO CRUEL AND STOOOOOOOOPID?  
:banghead:  :shake:  :bash:  :headbang:  :cussing:

Oh, to bring back the good old days of being a citizen of Sparta.  (NOT a Helot.)  This could never have happened.

Edited by Morgan on Dec. 26 2004,9:12 am

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Morgan
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Posted: Dec. 27 2004,11:13 am

I was in the breakroom at work, last night.  I didn't hear ONE conversation aobut the quake.  (Latest death toll = approximately 23,000.)  Sports news is sooooo much more important, huh?  Then I comment on the earthquake, and the death toll that I knew of at that point in time, and I get "Huh?  What earthquake?  You mean that thing in Asia?"  Oh, only a 9.0, as it's been upgraded to.  Sumatra allegedly moved a bit.
Different geological location.

Yeah, that's my philosophy.  Sleep through the end of the world.  Way to go!  No wonder this country is fucked.

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Morgan
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Posted: Dec. 29 2004,1:21 am

Re: our Satanist wannabe thing that's allegedly heading our country. . .kinda like Pinocchio:
http://bushfraud.blogspot.com/

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