Joined: Dec. 2005
|Posted: May 13 2007,12:12 pm
Iīve been thinking alot lately. Iīve turned into a total question-all-things-person atm, I do that at times, I donīt know why..
Something Iīve come to ponder is a concept brought up in another forum I tend to visit. Someone asked about getting a soul back from the devil, if that was possible after "selling it"..and she got the typical "ask for forgiveness and repent"-answers.. I couldnīt help questioning that idea, and thus I started to consider what I believe about the soul. The answers in the forum was -very- culturally coloured, and that I think is what brought it about.
First: I find it -very- suspicious that even though this god-being is supposedly lord over all creation, you have to dedicate your soul to him, or he wonīt get it...considering heīs largely believed to be the only god. :P
This means, in my eyes, that heīs just a weak-ass and we have all the cards, as we always have had.
Second: WHY would s/he/it want souls? I mean, considering alot of people believe that only christian souls go to her/him/it
and all else go to this devil-character. Technically the devil would have alot more souls, both christian and non-christian, if it all goes down like people believe, and even different types of christians believe the other kind will go to hell.. (Itīs a mad wooorld..)
And THAT means, as I see it, that is, that for being a being that wants something alot, heīs still leaving alot to the believed competitor for these "priceless souls".
Doesnīt make sense.
Another thing I canīt get my head around is the idea of selling a soul.
To do that, you must first have the belief that you have a soul. That is a cultural belief, weīre told we have one from very early age, and we accept it, without further consideration.
You also have to have the belief that itīs priceless or atleast extremely valuable.
You must then believe that someone wants this soul..This is something that alot of people also just accepts just like that, which in my book reads as "we donīt really believe itīs OUR soul, just a soul..It doesnīt belong to us". This is, as I see it, just another proof that we donīt -really- accept the idea.
And after those ideas being programmed into oneīs mind, there comes the belief that you can use your soul to gain favours from "supernatural" agents (god, devil or Bongo-Bongo, you choose).
For some reason, thereīs always 2 agents.
Then the idea of selling a soul for advantages is born, usually in the belief that oneīs soul is so priceless one can get ANYTHING for it, and the "buyer" or recipient will want to give whatīs asked for if they only get the soul. :P
I found it funny that the same people that, without blinking even, swallowed all that P.O.C and then claimed that god doesnīt buy his souls, or even that they believed itīs their souls when theyīve practically already sold it to this deity or whatever you want it to be.
I found it strange that they also consider that only the devil has to have his souls dedicated to him by a person by their own free will.
I keep wondering why they canīt see that the procedure is the same on both sides, but itīs just worded differently :P
In my eyes they are both deities, they have the same modus operandi, they have the same "lures"..Itīs the same coin, just different sides.
Personally I dedicate my perhaps-existing-soul to me. *grins* Thatīs my belief, that one has to retake it, not magically but mentally. Perhaps weīll be more happy if we just shake those ideas of other beings just snatching it off our backs and tell these ideas off.
Telling someone that their soul can be "taken" or "lost" is, as I see it, a very nasty thing to do. It robs people and subjects them to a idea that they havenīt asked for.
For my own belief on what a soul is for or what it is:
Iīm not totally sure yet. My current idea is that
A) We arenīt "given" them. It doesnīt seem logical. I keep thinking that we grow them, develop them. Theyīre a mix of residue, memories, experiences, things that are both basic and far away at the same time. Why we do it? Donīt know really, not yet.
B) The soul isnīt the main thing to incarnate..I think itīs the spirit, the soul is a smaller part of the spirit. The soul goes into a sort of slumber-period, thus we donīt remember much. I believe there are ways to access them though, but it takes time.
Sometimes, when the spirit is more "here", that is, when we are more aware, the soul doesnīt slumber. I think that becomes the case in time and with each reincarnation actually.
C) The soul and the spirit I believe is connected to each other at all times. The spirit feels, knows, itīs basically us without the bodies in the way :D The awareness that looks out from our eyes and so on is us, and thatīs also the spirit..it transfers things to the soul, both for safekeeping and because some experiences are to be kept. What makes it be kept and so on? That I donīt know.
I also donīt know if this is true or not, itīs just a thought-model I find logical, based on what Iīve experienced and considered over time. At times Iīm convinced that we donīt have souls, itīs just another word for the spirits we all are.
I just felt I had to write this, and I found that beliefs is the best heading for it. If itīs not rightly placed, feel free to move it.