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Topic: Human Cloning...Almost, What does everyone think?
Leilah
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Posted: Nov. 27 2001,6:14 pm

I was wondering what everyone was thinking regarding the recent attempt at cloning human cells for potential usage in fighting diseases and such.

Personally, I don't see how HELPING to save lives can be something so vehemently trampled upon by a current administration that has no qualms about blowing people to bits. All the religious fanatics are on about how it's "against god" to save lives, while it's okay with god to wage war. These embryos were DONATED cells. They forget that as well. And now they're on about 6 cells being equal to a human life! Give me a break! Will every sperm be sacred next? Replete with voting and equal employment rights!!!

IMO, if stem cell research can eventually bring out a cure for things like Parkinsons, and even certain cancers, then I say, GO FOR IT! But, then again, you've got idiots like Ashcroft, still trying to override the people's voice in Oregon regarding the Death With Dignity act...whilst spewing kill the Arabs out of the other side of his mouth.

I hate hypocrites!!:bash:

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daoine o
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Posted: Nov. 27 2001,10:43 pm

If it's used in research and could cure disease, I don't see a big problem  What I *don't* want to see is the sort of horror stories talked about on the childfree board I'm on...say, where some child is killed and the parents want some way of 'bringing their dead baby back' through cloning; some total travesty of DNA modification.  Fertility drugs/treatments and 'selecting gender' are bad enough.  Just my take...in my usual misanthropic way.
(Hmmm, 'clone' is not to far off from 'clown'...'send in the clones, there ought to be clones, send in the clones...)  *humming to self*

Sorry to digress.

:asthanos:  <--- no cloning here, i'm one of a kind!

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Sio
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Posted: Nov. 28 2001,9:41 am

The hypocritical values being thrown about regarding the cloning is hysterical, isn't it?

Minute one: "Get yer guns boys, we gonna go shoot us some Arabs!"

Minute two: "We value life."

It's either one or the other, geezus.
Plus, I think there's a difference between the cloning that everyone has a vision of, and what actually is being done. A human isn't going to be born, and then harvested (though that *does happen, just not to clones). I DO feel the full cloning of a human would be wrong, for many reasons. There has always been a buzz of using the DNA on the Shroud of Turin to bring back Jesus... hmm, the ultimate born again Christian?? ;)

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HOLDEN
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Posted: Nov. 28 2001,5:43 pm

Leilah, i am in full & enthusiastic agreement with what you said at the top of this thread! :clap:

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Samaelz
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Posted: Nov. 28 2001,7:13 pm

I say go for it anyways! The more strong cells the better :)

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Leilah
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Posted: Nov. 29 2001,5:21 pm

Oh! And here's the latest attempt at stupidity by same parties. Now they want to ban in-vitro fertilization as well. After all, this TOO, is "against god". My question is who the hell makes these assholes god's mouthpiece anyway?

It's all going to hell folks!

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Sio
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Posted: Nov. 29 2001,5:58 pm

May they be beaten down by a thousand infertile couples.

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Samaelz
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Posted: Nov. 30 2001,1:59 am

We are gods voice.... So long as We feel it is a "moral" decision. So be it... Don't look at me like I'm stupid :twitch: I know its more complicated than that.  I wish things were simple too.

(Edited by Samaelz at 2:10 am on Nov. 30, 2001)

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Lenore
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Posted: Nov. 30 2001,8:19 am

Ok then, can I have a clone of Johnny Depp??

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matriarch13
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Posted: Nov. 30 2001,11:59 am

I say weep for the world, cause now they are f*cking with the elements of life, nothing is truly sacred

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