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Topic: necromantic dreams, have you had any?
Vendome
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Posted: Feb. 15 2004,12:38 pm

A lot of my dreams would probably fall into this category, but the finest was probably about 11 years ago.  I'd worked all day at an auction, went back to my hotel room and fell face down into exhausted hypnogogic dreams.  I had often wondered about why we do not remember the exact moment of falling asleep, and after this occasion I decided that it must be because it was horrible.  There was the ability to see from every angle, and therefore know the scene perfectly, but the one thing that wasn't seen was the cat I felt walking over my legs.  The most exquisite fear followed, as I "saw" the dead man crouched at the foot of the bed and struggled to move my hand so that I would be able to defend myself should this interloper attack me.  His flesh was hollowed - corroded, it seemed - and I was not at all comfortable with the way he smiled at me.  I finally achieved some control over my body, and in one motion pressed down with every muscle and popped up so that i was standing on my pillow facing the thing, but neither he nor his cat were anywhere to be seen.  It took some years to realize who it actually was, and several more to come to the conclusion that our nightmares are seldom as frightening when they come to pass as they were when first perceived.

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Posted: Feb. 15 2004,6:11 pm

very very interesting, science has begun to try to explain these kind of things as sleep paralysis, the feeling you cant move after or before falling asleep. its supposedly caused by when you dream there is a hormone released that keeps you from acting out the results of your dream, and when you awake, you find you cannot move. this is somtimes accompinied by "hallucanations" (sorry spelling sucks today lol) both in sight smell and touch and feeling. somtimes it feels that there is a presence of pure evil by your side. and most of the time, it can be extremly terrifying espically since you cannot move and such.

I choose not to believe what science tries to explain it as, for a number of reasons. but mostly through personal experiance. id like to say, i probably have some kind of deficioncy of this hormone because my parents say i sleep walk, talk in my sleep loudly, and kick and hit, all while in my sleep. but this usually only occurs when im having dreams. and yet ive had this case of being paralyzed, it happened along time ago, when i was first expirementing with astral travel.

I faded in to this state of feeling terrified and paralyzed for no reason. then off two my right i out of the corner of my eye, three grayish figures. i tried to turn my head to get a better view, but to no avail, i could not move any part of me. this lasted for a few moments (during which i admit i was terrified, which is a rare occurence for me, i seem to always keep my cool in situations that scare the hell outta everyone else) and then the figures faded and i could move again. very strange.

People have come up with a number of theorys about this subject. some say the feeling of utter evil is proof that demons or the devil himself is at the root of these "attacks". others give credit to space aliens. still others say its just a side effect of somthing they ate and/or alchohol. and still others go with the scientific explanation.

what i personally believe it is, is the prescence of demons, probably cause im kind of obsessed with them. ::insert evil grin here:: but thats just me. think of what it is for yourself, and maybe one day we'll find a suitable explaination for this phenomina.

or this could have been just a dream that you were a little too awake for :-D

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Posted: Feb. 18 2004,8:42 am

Forgive the categorical statement, but I'm a psychologist...sleep movement occurs in non-REM sleep.  The body south of the brainstem is inhibited during REM sleep so you don't go trying to fly out the window.  When awakened, however, the mind combines the most recent moments of consciousness (i.e. the dream) with the current situation in an attempt to preserve continuity.  If you wish to experiment with hypnogogic sleep (which does not occur during REM, but in a state when one's awareness is exquisite), I have found that if one is absolutely ready to go to sleep, drinking a lot of soda immediately beforehand will release enough caffeine to keep one in the liminal state.  For whatever reason, sleeping on one's back also promotes it.
I personally see no reason why there is an inconsistency with acknowledging the biochemical sources of mental events and the other worlds.  Indeed, if there is any interaction at all between the physical and nonphysical, those biochemical processes must be consistent with aspects of the soul life, even if they only inhibit the body so that the spirit is not so constrained.

Edited by Vendome on Feb. 18 2004,8:44 am

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Posted: Feb. 18 2004,3:25 pm

lol thanks for the info, i read about this on a website, so maybe they didnt know what they were talking about and gave me the wrong info on the hormone thing. but thanks for clearing it up for me!

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lunanc31
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Posted: May 12 2004,2:04 pm

To open an old topic here I am a Narcoleptic and I have cataplexy with that. For those of you who dont know Narcolepsy is a sleeping disorder,I can sleep comfortably up to 19 or 20 hours a day when not on medication, cataplexy is at best to describe it, loss of muscle use. I become a blob of jelly. Any kind of strong emotion will trigger this attack.  I have also found that when I have these attacks I can travel. (astrally)  It was odd at first but I am still trying to prefect it.
Now along the lines of being paralysed when you dream. I have never had that problem until I got Narcolepsy. All the meds they were giving me made me have terrible nightmares and the fear triggered the cataleptic attack.  
Wich is the worst... you cant scream,breathe, move, or even wake yourself up. And the Narcolepsy has made my dreams so realistic I couldnt tell the difference at times between dreaming and being awake.
But what I deemed as a curse as a child I see as a blessing as an adult. I can do almost anything in my sleep now.
luna :eyemouth:

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Morgan
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Posted: June 13 2004,8:14 am

I had a pretty interesting dream involving Donn about a month ago.  He was dressed in lots of layers with fancy embroidery.  He was pretty stern in this dream, and he was telling me that working with him was basically no bed of roses.  There was no messing around.  It was like a job interview.  It was a very vivid dream, and his then cold demeanour was a bit out of character, but circumstances are circumstances.  rip  :color:

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Posted: June 15 2004,6:42 pm

I remember dreaming about a less than perfect/new hearse parked in front of my place.  Well, I looked it up in the "Dreamers Dictionary" and it said my burdens will be lifted.  K.  I was just ecstatic to be dreaming about a hearse!   :headbang:

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Posted: June 17 2004,10:59 am

:laugh:

SO, anyway, in the middle of this very strange erotic dream, I'm wandering around with a vampire (Spike from Angel, to be exact) and a few other people. There are the little girls that live in an attic in an old house, luring people in for thier mother (also a ghost) who would suck the life from them. Though I tried to tell my companions this...did they listen? No.
So they climb the stair to the attic, and while the mother is preparing to send them to the great beyond, I'm climbing the wall trying to save them from an untimely death. I look in the window, and Death is there, waiting for the moment, unseen by all but me. I scream, "DEATH!" And then everyone can see him, and he turns around and smiles (if I skull grin could be any wider) and screams back, "KAT!" So I crawl in the window and we hug, and have a plesant conversation while everyone is staring at us open mouthed. (In this dream, death was kind of both my husband and brother.) He waves the ghosts away, and as the others a filing out, Death grabs Spike and says, "Oh, and is THIS the guy that was bothering you before?" (Referencing the more erotic part of the dream) And when I say yes, he says, "Spike, I'd like to have a word with you." and drags him off and beats him up!

Ah, Death. The older brother everyone would love to have. :beer:

Crawling back into her tomb until the stars align again... rip

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Posted: June 17 2004,2:00 pm

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Evendia
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Posted: Sep. 16 2004,6:37 am

Usually my dreams are confusing, totally illogic and easily forgotten, except one that's been keeping me preoccupied for two months now.
I remember walking down a street in my hometown. There was no-one around but me and someone else beside me. I knew I was dreaming - something I usually don't realize - and I knew that the dream itself was of a serious matter. We talked, I can't really recall about what, but I was ecstatic for I had the feeling I could now get all the information I ever wanted; about everything I ever wanted to know. At some point I started talking about my mother and I asked him if everything was okay with her. The cryptic answer was a kind of 'warning' that she was going to be okay for the next four years. I began to panic in my dream and the comfortable feeling I had up to that point vanished and I woke up crying.

I don't really have a clue as to the nature of that dream. Is it something I should consider seriously? I've never had any 'prophetic' dream or spiritual encounter. I'm very much interested in these things - but I guess still too afraid to really accept certain things or signs.
Maybe it's just another dream of many, without (much)significance for I believe the one next to me looked like Morgan Freeman as 'God' from 'Bruce Almighty'. *cough*

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